Sandbox (4)

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Sometimes very active discussions about peripheral issues overwhelm a thread, so this is a permanent home for those conversations.

I’ve opened a new “Sandbox” thread as a post as the new “ignore commenter” plug-in only works on threads started as posts.

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  2. Tom English: Nowadays, how do you specify where the fold goes?

    If you are using the “Block” editor, there should be a “more” block that you can add. I think you have to search the blocktypes available.

  4. Tom English:
    Heartfelt thanks to whomever it was that got the site to render embedded LaTeX again. I put a ridiculous amount of work into some of the posts containing that stuff.

    I think Pavel Holoborodko deserves the thanks. 🙂

    It seems only fair to contribute a brief post in return.

    Great news. I’m looking forward to it.

  5. J-Mac: So, does it mean I can post a post without censorship if the evidence comes form Pfizer, CDC, FDA etc?

    I suggest you offer a post for publication, including the evidence for any claim.

  6. Alan Fox: I suggest you offer a post for publication, including the evidence for any claim.

    What kind of evidence are you willing to accept?
    Are you, or DNA_jock, willing to accept the evidence from WHO from 2020 that clearly indicates covid-19 had the same morality rate as influenzas?

  7. J-Mac: Are you, or DNA_jock, willing to accept the evidence from WHO from 2020 that clearly indicates covid-19 had the same morality rate as influenzas?

    Well, let’s see the evidence! Although I am curious as to the metric they used to measure the morality rate — was it the CFR (case fornication rate)?
    ROFLMAO.

  8. DNA_Jock,

    I expect my morality rating will be weighed in the balance but hope my eventual death will not be too excessive.

  9. DNA_Jock: Well, let’s see the evidence! Although I am curious as to the metric they used to measure the morality rate —was it the CFR (case fornication rate)?
    ROFLMAO.

    We included 77 estimates of the case fatality risk from 50 published studies, about one-third of which were published within the first 9 months of the [2009, flu] pandemic. We identified very substantial heterogeneity in published estimates, ranging from less than 1 to more than 10,000 deaths per 100,000 cases or infections.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3809029/
    The cherries are ripe for picking.

  10. DNA_Jock: Well, let’s see the evidence! Although I am curious as to the metric they used to measure the morality rate —was it the CFR (case fornication rate)?
    ROFLMAO.

    We included 77 estimates of the case fatality risk from 50 published studies, about one-third of which were published within the first 9 months of the [2009, flu] pandemic. We identified very substantial heterogeneity in published estimates, ranging from less than 1 to more than 10,000 deaths per 100,000 cases or infections.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3809029/
    The cherries are ripe for picking.

  11. Oops. The old plug-ins blocked double posting.

    I don’t know anyone who’s been tested for flu, so I’m suspicious about case fatality rates. Also, fatality rates vary by age. I think the 1918 flu was an exception.

    When covid started up, it seemed obvious to me that the extreme symptoms were a result of novelty. Naive immune systems overreacting. This was an informed guess, but it seems to have been about right. After recovery, or after vaccination, people still get infected, but don’t get as sick.

    I think this is true of flu, also. I’ve read that there is some cross immunity to flu variants.

  13. Alan Fox:
    DNA_Jock,

    I expect my morality rating will be weighed in the balance but hope my eventual death will not be too excessive.

    Have you made up your mind to go down with the ship, Alan???
    Please tell me it ain’t so? Are you siding with dna_jock_corrption because of what?

  14. DNA_Jock: Well, let’s see the evidence! Although I am curious as to the metric they used to measure the morality rate —was it the CFR (case fornication rate)?
    ROFLMAO.

    Mortality rate? Are you on drugs? We are talking about human lives and not chickens… Do you get it? Why would you laugh about such an important issue as human lives? What is so funny about people dying unnecessarily?

  15. J-Mac: Have you made up your mind to go down with the ship, Alan??? Please tell me it ain’t so?

    With climate change predictions of an inevitable 3°C, there’s no escape. We’re all in the same boat, though rowing in different directions.

    Are you siding with dna_jock_corrption because of what?

    Did you not get the joke? Your typo “mortality=>morality” is pretty funny.

  16. Alan Fox: With climate change predictions of an inevitable 3°C, there’s no escape. We’re all in the same boat, though rowing in different directions.

    Did you not get the joke? Your typo “mortality=>morality” is pretty funny.

    Alan,
    Are you aware of NASA finding that the planet you live on and possibly me, got 15% greener since you got your last flu vaccine?
    I love Jimmy D so that’s why the link

  17. Alan Fox: Did you not get the joke? Your typo “mortality=>morality” is pretty funny.

    Do you really think this is funny Alan? You are jobbed and so is you family, right?

  19. Alan Fox: With climate change predictions of an inevitable 3°C, there’s no escape. We’re all in the same boat, though rowing in different directions

    Compared to the recent past (1995–2014), GSAT averaged over the period 2081–2100 is very likely to be higher by 0.2°C–1.0°C in the low-emissions scenario SSP1-1.9 and by 2.4°C–4.8°C in the high-emissions

    https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-4/

    Inevitable?

  22. J-Mac: Are you aware of NASA finding that the planet you live on and possibly me, got 15% greener since you got your last flu vaccine?

    Climate change results in extremes. Humans live in a sweet spot of temperature, precipitation, wind etc. It’s not whether plants will benefit* in areas where precipitation increases (in our garden, irises outcompete grass now); it’s whether humans will be able to adapt.

    * For instance

  24. Alan Fox:
    Why are there so many fewer inspects splattered on my windscreen?

    ETA Inspects? Insects!

    It’s a mystery.

    “ In light of previously suggested driving mechanisms, our analysis renders two of the prime suspects, i.e. landscape [9, 18, 20] and climate change [15, 18, 21, 37], as unlikely explanatory factors for this major decline in aerial insect biomass in the investigated protected areas. ”

  25. Alan Fox: It’s happening wherever I look.

    That’s not responsive to my question about inevitably. I gave a link to the most authoritative projections, and they do not suggest inevitability.

  26. petrushka: I gave a link to the most authoritative projections, and they do not suggest inevitability.

    Really? I confess I only scanned the article you linked to. If there is ‘good’ news in the article, I’d be interested in a pointer.

  27. petrushka: I gave a link to the most authoritative projections, and they do not suggest inevitability.

    From the article:

    The upper and lower bounds of model projections may further be sensitive to the missing representation of processes and to deep uncertainties about aspects of the climate system.

    How authoritative projections are is one thing. How accurate they are, how well the maps match the territory, is another. Other than “wait and see”, how to we judge?

  28. Remember when Arctic sea ice extent was reassuring data. Then it became practical to assess sea ice volume.

  29. I’m not going to make predictions, but I will list some reasons to be optimistic or pessimistic.

    Pessimistic:

    Population is not going to start going down in the next thirty years. Even if the world fertility rate goes to 1.7, it will take a century or more to decline significantly.

    Energy usage is not likely to diminish much.

    Solar and wind will not contribute much unless we invent better batteries.

    Optimistic:

    Population in the developed world is declining. That is where per capita energy usage is highest.

    Modular nuclear power could go online within ten years. Among the possibilities, it could enable less developed regions to achieve a decent standard of living without burning fossil fuels.

    Demand has a way of accelerating technology. My pessimistic assessment of wind and solar might look stupid in ten years.

    Projections are always wrong. Optimistic and pessimistic alike. Something different will happen.

  30. It has come to my attention that the Department of Defence was really in charge of the so-called pandemic of a novel virus SARS-CoV-2 and more importantly of the production and distribution process of now known as “counter measures” often referred to as “vaccines”…
    One question remains: Was DNA_jock, who bragged about getting hired to do whatever about the greatest panicdemic in mankind history actually working for DoD?
    It seems reasonable that if he was either directly or indirectly working for DoD, shall we call him henceforth DoD_jock?
    You tell me..
    BTW: I gotta tell you almost everyday I find out that this panicdemic scam goes just beyond rebranding the flu into covid-19… This is way beyond that..
    If DoD_jock fell for it, well that is good for him… I mean for his bank account which he is going to need when the time comes…

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